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Old 06-10-2009, 02:41 PM
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You all know I am always trying to come up with something that will help get more people on palace and here, too! :)

I did a Google search on Chat and the first pages that came up that I saw, none of them were about Palace or here :( Unless I missed it.

When people put in chat in the search engines is there any way to get Palace and this web site to come up in the first pages???

I have to admit Twitter was not that good of idea to get the word out. I mean it could be since so many people are on it but I have found that most on Twitter just want to give you a minute by minute report of what they are doing all day LOL without them wanting any real conversation. Not saying everyone on Twitter is like that but it was my experience while I was trying out Twitter. Most want to talk to others but don't care much about others talking back on a personal basis.

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Old 06-11-2009, 12:19 AM
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Yes there is a way to get Palaceplanet noticed and I have posted it many many many many times over: The more people link to PalacePlanet the better it will do on Google. But sadly this doesn't seem to be advice people take serious and Palace is slowly slipping into oblivion.
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Old 06-11-2009, 01:43 PM
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This is probably a stupid question lol

But there is not any way for you to list this web site with key words or whatever so when someone types "chat" in Google or other searches that this web site comes up???

Yeah, I know.....

It seems every time Palace starts to take off again that it dives again :(

If they mentioned Palace on CNN news as much as they mentioned Facebook and Twitter this site would be booming :)

PS Thought Since Maarten you mentioned about links to HERE at THIS WEB SITE which I have done that I would check the links to here that I have at my Twitter page and the links were not working since you have updated your web site here so glad I checked them and got them corrected. I hope everyone else that has links here to this web site will check their links too :) I have not done much but if everyone did even as little as I have I think all of it added together would HELP PALACE AND THIS WEB SITE :) Once Palace is gone folks, it's too late to whine then if you didn't do something to help.

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Old 07-24-2009, 04:57 PM
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There exist meta keywords. And we have those already.

Code:
<meta name="keywords" content="Palace,Chat, Palace Chat, home palace planet palace avatar chat" />
Yup, we do.

However, we could add many more. For example, how about adding there names of the most popular visual/avatar chat services and virtual worlds, Such as Second Life? So that when a person searches for those, we appear somewhere in the list. I don't think it's illegal or anything, so why not?

Other suggestions:

Visual Chat, Virtual Chat, Avatar Chat, Free Chat, Virtual World, Chat Rooms, IMVU

And so on.

Also, some more specific Palace chat keywords, such as: Palace Scripts, Palace Manuals, Palace Help, Palace Tutorials, Palace Chat Software, Palace Chat Downloads, etc.
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Old 07-24-2009, 06:34 PM
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ooh nice, good points! Actually wanted to get back to this when eveyrthing was running smoothly but forgot.. lol

The news system allows adding meta keywords and description to every article.. woohooo.. Thanks!

And please keep suggestions coming :P
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Old 07-28-2009, 09:49 PM
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Marketing thoughts...

Twitter is fine as long as you know how to use it. As I see it, Twitter is primarily a marketing, public relations, and networking tool. People who use it to update a blow by blow of their mundane lives don't really get it and should be ignored.

The best way to use Twitter as a professional is to start with the search feature at search.twitter.com and actually search for topics that are of interest to you or what you're trying to do. You will find individual tweets on those topics, and then you can start following the people who posted the most interesting or informative ones.

After a while of doing this, you'll find that the feed of your twitter friends starts to resemble an RSS feed of interesting news, catered to the topics you're interested in.

Also, people generally follow people who follow them out of politeness. Once you've built up a network of people who might be interested in what you're trying to market, then posting something interesting and informative about your product is more likely to meet with success, and if people find it interesting they will re-tweet (forward) your post.

However, in order to market something successfully, it has to be a good product. Palace was at one time a good product, but at this point it is fragmented and in a severe state of disrepair. The fact that its central organizing entity went bankrupt is still the primary reason for the languishing status of the community. No updates to the server have been made since eons ago in 2002, and the server itself is badly out of date and struggling to keep up with the demands of today's internet connections. None of the client software available is completely compatible and the original Palace32 software is all but irrelevant. And even the very fact that you have to download and install software at all is a huge barrier to mass adoption in this age where everything is moving into the browser.

In order to be able to recover from this, there needs to be a new relevant technological advancement that can take what was once great about the Palace and update it to fit with today's Web 2.0 culture. Palaces should be embeddable in web pages, sharable via IM, Twitter, and Facebook. (Imagine seeing facebook feed posts like this: "Brian is chatting at Avatar Palace! Click here to join him!")

This is why I have been working on OpenPalace. I have already completed the core functionality for a new Flash based client that I wrote from scratch that can hopefully be fully functional in a way that InstantPalace never was. Ultimately it would be nice if its capabilities could even be extended to the point where desktop clients are no longer necessary at all, and the entire platform could be taken to the web and made viral.

I am hoping to create a centralized account system across all of palace space, where you can keep your prop bag, saved avatars, bookmarks, etc., and use them from any web connected machine. Only once that kind of functionality is in place can the Palace as a concept become accessible to the masses. Centralized accounts and online storage for your props, I believe, is the number one most important advancement, and is a hard prerequisite for mass adoption.

Development is coming relatively slowly at this point since I'm just working on it in my spare time, but I have made the project open source so other ActionScript 3 developers are welcome to coordinate with me on features to build and submit improvements.

http://www.openpalace.org/


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Old 08-02-2009, 04:01 PM
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theturtle32 this is pretty cool what you are doing! If you have not already I hope you will start a new topic on this where hopefully everyone sees it.

I know this is going to be a really dumb question (I am really good for that and why I hate posting lol) but I noticed when trying it out that you can connect to AV Palace but not other palaces?

PLEASEEEEEEEE make sure that font in OpenPalace can be made larger where you type the text. Not everyone can see good LOL and when I tried to make the font larger in the typing text box the way I do other web sites that did not work :(

I hope it will work with the same scripts that Palace owners already have/use cause it took me long enough to learn what little I know and I sure am not up to doing it again as hard as it is for me. I just don't get it when it comes to computer lingo like so many others do :( And my head is too full to try to learn anymore LOL

Just a estimate, about how long do you think this is going to take you to finish? Going to be able to download the sounds that Palace owners already have in their palaces and get the avatars in the avatar rooms?

I haven't looked yet but hope this is front page news here? Maybe will drive more people here if they know something new and cool is in the works that will be compatible with those having their own palaces???

Thanks, Country
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Old 08-05-2009, 12:09 AM
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Regarding connecting to various palaces, there is a security limitation built into the Flash Player that prevents you from connecting to any palace that has not explicitly configured their server to allow OpenPalace to connect to it.

Elitepalaces has added the capability to all palaces hosted with them, but this is a step that must be taken by each palace host in order to allow OpenPalace to connect.

The short version is that you must run a separate server application on the same machine that runs the palace server that will publish a "Policy File" that tells the Flash player that it is allowed to connect to it.

If anyone has questions on how to do this, please contact me directly. You can find my contact information at http://www.openpalace.org/

I do intend to write a tutorial guide on how to accomplish this, but haven't gotten around to it yet. So for now, you may use OpenPalace connect to any palace hosted by Elitepalaces that allows Guests.

Regarding scripts... Iptscrae is a non-trivial feature to implement. I hope to get to it eventually, but there are a lot of other smaller features that I want to burn through before I tackle that one. As far as I'm aware, all prop generator rooms are implemented as Iptscrae scripts, so those would not be able to work with OpenPalace until Iptscrae support is complete. However, Iptscrae is a severely limited and antiquated language that is probably best left in the past. While I would love to support it for compatibility with existing scripts, it is not well suited for future advancements or developments with the platform. I haven't decided yet whether it might be a better use of my time to implement something more powerful and better understood. JavaScript would make a far superior scripting environment for the Palace, because there are an incredible number of people familiar with it. It would be especially good for new people entering the palace community for the first time, because they could leverage a language they already know instead of learning an arcane language that is only good for one thing. Iptscrae is based on the "Forth" programming language, which has been dead for decades and happily long forgotten. It truly has no future.

As for development schedules, I can't make any promises about rapid progress. This is a project that I am working on only in my spare time. I only have a couple hours now and again to put into it, so progress will likely happen fairly slowly. I was able to make substantial progress in the first few weeks of the project, but unfortunately my life has gotten much busier since then.

I also welcome outside contributors. The source code repository is publicly available, and the entire project is released under the GPL open source license. Anyone who is interested in making contributions of code or other development efforts are welcome to contact me.

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Old 08-05-2009, 12:28 AM
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Heyyyyyyyyyy Maarten, I haven't seen your ideas and comments on what Brian posted?? Sounds so cool and I am hoping will breath new life into Palace.

COME ON FOLKS where is EVERYONE......

There are some smart people around that knows Palace inside and out :)
Help Brian out :)

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Hello! I'm new on your chat. Let me tell about myself. I'm 17 years old. My name is Lena. I live in Ukraine. I've many interests. If you want to write me, I'd be very glad.
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