Overheated debate

[Janus]

It doesn't actually use 100% CPU all of the time. I believe it uses the CPU to the point where the meter can't update fast enough to report less than 100%. For if your machine were tied to 100% CPU ALL OF THE TIME, your mouse cursor wouldn't even hover across the screen, as if the machine had become frozen. Your machine can over heat regardless if you use Palace or not. This is usually a sign that your machine doesn't have sufficent cooling systems - like a fan! Hard drives can over heat for instance, and which case it will stop responding. A hard drive that's mounted that stops responding tends to 'panic' the OS (atleast in Linux).

[maarten]

Well this is true too you probly already have a cooling problem but it is also true Palace does use make your CPU run at 100%. I actually had to reset my heatsink with new thermal pasta ( not spicey lasagna honest) because it had dried up and my CPU overheated the second I turned on Palace.

Here is a quote from Glide to explain the situation:

Quote: Originally Posted by

This is normal for Windows Palace clients. The Windows client will use
100% of CPU usage if it can, but it will also willingly relinquish CPU
usage to any other program or process that wants it, which is consistent
with what you observed. As you noted, this is very unconventional behavior
in comparison to most other programs, but it is normal for Windows Palace
clients.

[Janus]

Just switch to Linux... Palace32 runs fine for me!

[maarten]

That is becuase you overlooked this part:

The Windows client will use 100% of CPU usage if it can.

Windows as in Windows 95, NT, 98, 2000, ME, XP

And you can try to argue this with logic but well.. its Palace lol, it has done this ever since I have used it on NT / W2K and now on XP (yes I stopped using W2K.. aaaaaaah!) the second you log in anywhere the CPU load shoots to 100%. Here is a picture to show you what happens. Logging on and off my Palace while typing this post with only a few programs open.

[Janus]

What can we Linux people say then... Windows must royally suck at management! Whether it's the CPU or RAM or whatever...

[maarten]

So to sum it all up for Keira:

You need to:

Clean the Pc but not vacuum
re-seat the hatsink
check your PC ventilation
Use Linux
read up on Microsoft Facts
tell everyone Palaceplanet rules

Did I forget anything?

Perhaps we should stick to answering help questions and leave the Linux/ Windows "thing" for another forum :twisted:

Besides compared to the Amiga OS everything else sucks.

[Janus]

The concept of an Amiga is still commonly used. More expensive Network cards have their own microprocessors (mini-CPU for non-teachies). Video Cards PCI/AGP/PCI Express have a GPU (Graphical CPU) of their own to crank out better graphics. Expensive SoundBlaster cards have their own microprocessors too to crank out stuff that owns. It's only the 'cheap shit' like onboard hardware that 'taps off the main CPU'. The days of Amiga's superiority are long gone baby!

I must admit on the side of things though, PCs still rely on the main CPU/RAM too much, especially in Windows. Linux with all the best hardware and drivers support could make a pretty good Amiga rival :P.

[maarten]

Hah I guess you never knew the concept of the Amiga:

Unix kernel with a super effecient graphical interface on top.

Multitasking like mad on 512K of memory, I got a Amiga 4000 here and it is still very fast and does things in real time a dual 2GHZ G5 can just about manage. All on a 25mhz 68040, just shows you how they can make real software if needed. Apple's OSX is a slow ripoff. Amiga used 5 times less resources then any other OS, the dedicated hardware was fun but not what made the Amiga so cool.

And on another note: Computers just KNOW your talking about heat problems, just after the Palace client test my PC died and would not restart the CPU almost friend at 90C. The thermal pasta had dried up, all is well again.

[Janus]

I'm aware Amiga had true-multi-tasking. The point was it just uses more microprocessors, and PC hardware has that too. On top of that PC hardware isn't nearly as expensive as either a Mac or Amiga. A Unix Kernel isn't something to be proud of - try reading the Unix haters handbook sometime.

[Shadow99]

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